Gears...and more wider gears....

Skidmark · Post by **Skidmark** » October 13th, 2008, 11:35 pm

Hey there Hoons !!

OK, so fill me in on the wide ratio gear thing.

I'm just a retard, so speak slowly and clearly OK ??

I have a 90 motor. Tranny is WAY too short. I would like more top speed without losing 1st & 2nd's ability to cruise goat trails at a glacial pace....slow is good.

Can I use later year 500 gears for just 3,4 & 5 ??

Lay it out for me if you would.

MAHALO !!
"Skiddy"

P.s. I need a rear 18" wheel complete, or just a 18" rim or a 36 spoke hub w/20mm i.d. bearings for a Excell rim I already have.....

Travis · Post by **Travis** » October 14th, 2008, 6:37 am

If I am not mistaken the first few gears are the same ratio on all the cr 5 transmissions.

http://www.youtube.com/user/500bigbore · Post by **Roostius_Maximus** » October 14th, 2008, 6:58 am

In your trans you can use any 4th and 5th from 86-01 on your shafts

http://www.youtube.com/user/500bigbore · Post by **Roostius_Maximus** » October 14th, 2008, 7:01 am

ask danny graves if he still has that hub without spokes

Skidmark · Post by **Skidmark** » October 14th, 2008, 11:32 am

So do I just buy the appropriate gears or are the shift forks different etc ??

MANY MANY MAHALO'S !!!
"Skidmark"

Yo, Danny...you go a line on a 36 spoke rear hub ??

aloha450x · Post by **aloha450x** » October 14th, 2008, 12:05 pm

i believe ya just drop in the new gears. foks are the same. just grab a 93 and up trans off ebay. only 4th and 5th are wider.

hoofarted · Post by **hoofarted** » October 14th, 2008, 12:22 pm

There are actually 4 individual gears that you replace. Two on the main shaft and two on the intermediate. Just follow the page out of the manual and it'll work out fine. I did it and what a difference!! but then again, I run a 14/45...

http://www.youtube.com/user/500bigbore · October 14th, 2008, 12:27 pm

ya gotta watch the term "wider", the 98-01 gears physical width is more than previous years, but still fits the cases and mixes with '86+parts. The ratio is "wider" as compared to the close ratio '88-'92 trans.

if you can get a trans for under 180.00 us your still cheaper than buying the 4 gears to do the swap.

I'm going to put only the tall 5th from an '86 trans set into my '88 for a road gear, and keep the lower 4th for still haulin ass in heavy ground

http://www.youtube.com/user/500bigbore · October 14th, 2008, 12:36 pm

1994 (cheaper than '98) part numbers

4th counter:23471-ML3-670
main:23461-ML3-670

5th counter:23491-ML3-670
main:23481-ML3-670

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » October 14th, 2008, 1:30 pm

I have a stock '90+ rear hub, don't know the # of spokes.

Balaclava · Post by **Balaclava** » October 14th, 2008, 1:44 pm

http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/mcy/878158318.html

check it out this dude is parting his 00' 500 and he's getting rid of an 18'' er...would that wheel fit a gen 3 250 swingarm no problem?

hoofarted · Post by **hoofarted** » October 14th, 2008, 1:47 pm

I think the axle sizes may be different. I know they are for Gen1.

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » October 14th, 2008, 1:48 pm

gen-2+ use a much larger diameter axle than the gen-1 and steelies run.

http://www.youtube.com/user/500bigbore · Post by **Roostius_Maximus** » October 14th, 2008, 1:49 pm

I made a pair of small axel adjuster blocks for my '02 cr250, and a bushing to slip in the brake, now I can run the 18" rear on the small axel, and swap it from my 500, my 500 extention can use either axel aswell

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » October 14th, 2008, 1:50 pm

well, not all of us have a full machine shop!

http://www.youtube.com/user/500bigbore · Post by **Roostius_Maximus** » October 14th, 2008, 1:56 pm

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » October 14th, 2008, 1:59 pm

Balaclava · Post by **Balaclava** » October 14th, 2008, 2:32 pm

ya Millar! jeeeeeze

Skidmark · Post by **Skidmark** » October 15th, 2008, 10:18 pm

Thanks guys for your help and direction....

Yeah, I need a 18" 32 spoke rim only. Mine is coming apart internally.

I "won" a brand new complete 18" rear wheel on E-bay...listed as a CR250/500....and it was PERFECT....except it's a stock DRZ400S wheel (which I also ride...so no great loss there, and the price was right).

I also have a complete set of gold Excel wheels for a late RM250 that won't fit my DRZ. Anyone need RM Excel's??

Anyway, thanks again.

I'm outta here!

"Skiddy"

exackery · Post by **exackery** » October 17th, 2008, 5:49 pm

I just found a link to a company which is advertising a wide ratio kit. Same 1st and 2nd new 3rd 4th and 5th. Kinda pricey but if you want to play sometimes you have to payhttp://www.madmanengineering.com/wideratio.htm

BannedCR500Riders.com

Gears...and more wider gears....

Gears...and more wider gears....

What about a real Wide ratio?