Magura Hydraulic Clutch
- NightBiker07
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Magura Hydraulic Clutch
Im seriously considering shelling out the 200 for the clutch and another 70 for the ASV F3 lever for it.
Are they any good? i can definitely see the advantages, especially the lighter clutch pull, but how much do they typically cut the pull down, and are they worth it?
Are they any good? i can definitely see the advantages, especially the lighter clutch pull, but how much do they typically cut the pull down, and are they worth it?
2000 CR250, pipe, filter, Vforce
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Natural selection favors Smart people, so nature selects morons to be slow and dumb for tigers and stuff too eat. But in our modern world there just aren't enough tigers.
- redrocket190
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- Gravel Scratcher
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- Gravel Scratcher
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If you are talking about the Magura Jack (which is the only thing clutch related I can find that they make), from what I can tell, the 2 are mutually exclusive. The ASV is for a cable actuation and the Magura is a hydraulic actuation that replaces your cable. If you frequently suffer from fatigue with your clutch hand, yeah, the Magura is worth the $200. It made my 500's pull feel like a 125's. It will also very much change the "feel" of engagement. Some would argue that's good, others would argue it's bad. I like mine on my 500. I don't want one for the 250. I can't speak to the ASV. Never tried one.
No longer have a CR500.
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- britincali
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I have one... it sucks ass.....MojoScojo wrote: It will also very much change the "feel" of engagement...
The pull is 100% linear, like a cable thats pulling in on a spring. There is no "feel" to it.
In the OEM set up, the lever is pulling around an arc. It gets progerssivly harder to pull, until you pass the high point on the arc, and then it gets easier. It provides instant feedback on "where" in the throw you are.
I curse that Magura everytime I go ride.... but its still on there.
Yea... the light pull is pretty nice.
- NightBiker07
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this isnt an actual "clutch" it replaces the stock lever and cable with a hydraulic system.Gravel Scratcher wrote:Just go and throw some more petrol on the fire why don't you
I dotn have a problem pulling the lever, but after 5 hours on the bike in the woods, it can get a bit laborious.
as for the ASV levers, they kick ass. not only are they tough as hell, the reach is easily adjustable. If you break levers even only once a year, these are well worth the cash.
2000 CR250, pipe, filter, Vforce
1980 XL80s
1969 Broncco TX-6
Natural selection favors Smart people, so nature selects morons to be slow and dumb for tigers and stuff too eat. But in our modern world there just aren't enough tigers.
1980 XL80s
1969 Broncco TX-6
Natural selection favors Smart people, so nature selects morons to be slow and dumb for tigers and stuff too eat. But in our modern world there just aren't enough tigers.
NightBiker07 wrote:as for the ASV levers, they kick ass. not only are they tough as hell, the reach is easily adjustable. If you break levers even only once a year, these are well worth the cash.
You did catch this, right?
Do they make an ASV Lever specifically for the Jack? All I see is the rotator clamps. Which are pretty cool. http://www.asvinventions.com/RotatorClamp/RCM03.phpMojoScojo wrote:from what I can tell, the 2 are mutually exclusive
The Jack lever is also easily / quickly adjustable for the reach.
No longer have a CR500.
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07 Yamaha YZ250, 17 Husqvarna 701 Enduro
Get on with riding or get on with dying.
https://www.youtube.com/mojoscojo
No longer have a CR500.
07 Yamaha YZ250, 17 Husqvarna 701 Enduro
Get on with riding or get on with dying.
https://www.youtube.com/mojoscojo
07 Yamaha YZ250, 17 Husqvarna 701 Enduro
Get on with riding or get on with dying.
https://www.youtube.com/mojoscojo
- Gravel Scratcher
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- NightBiker07
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well you were talking about throwing fuel on the fire like it was related to the Rekluse thread........Gravel Scratcher wrote:this isnt an actual "clutch" it replaces the stock lever and cable with a hydraulic system.
I know what it is and what it does
2000 CR250, pipe, filter, Vforce
1980 XL80s
1969 Broncco TX-6
Natural selection favors Smart people, so nature selects morons to be slow and dumb for tigers and stuff too eat. But in our modern world there just aren't enough tigers.
1980 XL80s
1969 Broncco TX-6
Natural selection favors Smart people, so nature selects morons to be slow and dumb for tigers and stuff too eat. But in our modern world there just aren't enough tigers.
- Gravel Scratcher
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- redrocket190
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My KTM EXC520 has a Magura hydraulic and its been a pain in the ass. If there's even a tiny leak it will suck air from that little reservoir. The only way to bleed it is to reverse pressure bleed with a syringe.
I refill the reservoir habitually but still loose the clutch every now and then.
I refill the reservoir habitually but still loose the clutch every now and then.
CR500 Shifter Kart + Gen 3 AF
I LOVE hydros on my street bikes but dont have tons (not years, like the street) of experience with them in the dirt. I have ridden a bunch of KTMs and a Husky (only a total of about 3-5 hours total combined) and never really noticed too much "lack of feel" and pretty much forgot they were hydro until the end of the ride and my left hand was still happy! The KTMs were mostly Magura, the Husky is Brembo (if I remember right).
One thing I always warn people about hydros are you have no warning that your clutch is wearing out until its gone (had to tow a buddy several miles back to the truck for this very reason). On a cable clutch your adjuster gives you ample heads up...
A hyrdo clutch coupled with an Auto Clutch is the best of the best IN MY SHORT BUS OPINION...
One thing I always warn people about hydros are you have no warning that your clutch is wearing out until its gone (had to tow a buddy several miles back to the truck for this very reason). On a cable clutch your adjuster gives you ample heads up...
A hyrdo clutch coupled with an Auto Clutch is the best of the best IN MY SHORT BUS OPINION...
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- 2strokes4ever
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i have ASV C5 levers on my RM they take serius abuse to break they will bend though, the only way i could break mine was trying to bend it back from looking like a mosquito coil. Snap
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1996 CR500/2001 CR250 CONVERSION IN PROGRESS
2007 RM250
2010 Banshee
2004 CR 85
Which way did you bend the lever?2strokes4ever wrote: the only way i could break mine was trying to bend it back from looking like a mosquito coil. Snap
Faster then Speedy Gonzalez, slower then the Road Runner!!! MEEP MEEP
2002 CR80
1999 Cr500
2003 CR250R
2005 CRF250R
2006 YZ450F
2005 CBR1000RR
1997 Banshee
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1999 Cr500
2003 CR250R
2005 CRF250R
2006 YZ450F
2005 CBR1000RR
1997 Banshee
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- 2strokes4ever
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2strokes4ever wrote:
the only way i could break mine was trying to bend it back from looking like a mosquito coil. Snap
Which way did you bend the lever?
it bent towards the front tyre and kept bending around inside itself, kind of like a dogturd, or MR whippy
the only way i could break mine was trying to bend it back from looking like a mosquito coil. Snap
Which way did you bend the lever?
it bent towards the front tyre and kept bending around inside itself, kind of like a dogturd, or MR whippy
Two bangers, Guitar playing, Many beers
1996 CR500/2001 CR250 CONVERSION IN PROGRESS
2007 RM250
2010 Banshee
2004 CR 85
1996 CR500/2001 CR250 CONVERSION IN PROGRESS
2007 RM250
2010 Banshee
2004 CR 85
So you are saying it coiled up like a snake in the direction the lever flexes?2strokes4ever wrote: around inside itself, kind of like a dogturd, or MR whippy
Faster then Speedy Gonzalez, slower then the Road Runner!!! MEEP MEEP
2002 CR80
1999 Cr500
2003 CR250R
2005 CRF250R
2006 YZ450F
2005 CBR1000RR
1997 Banshee
2002 CR80
1999 Cr500
2003 CR250R
2005 CRF250R
2006 YZ450F
2005 CBR1000RR
1997 Banshee