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Posted: October 27th, 2010, 8:13 am
by 100hp honda
got .126 but need .143 gonna try 2 .030 gaskets first and see where that puts everything

Posted: October 27th, 2010, 4:12 pm
by 100hp honda
stated a few things wrong. spacer is .122. when piston gets here i can roll it through the stroke and let you know at that point 100% what is going on.

Posted: October 27th, 2010, 4:26 pm
by 100hp honda
roostious whats thinnest you can accurately machine a alloy plate ? other dude said it was to thin and his eqiupment was having trouble holding it down. :confused:. he sent me a piece of commerially made flat alloy.

Posted: October 27th, 2010, 6:04 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
it can be done with an endmill, not a shellmill, best on a rotary table, you have to supprt the plate and bolt down thru the center of it, as far as that goes, sometimes you can wedge it in the lathe with the tailstock and cut it thinner.
flatout or some of the other gasket guys will roll a copper base gasket down for you, may even make you the tickness on a sheet cheap and you can cut it out

Posted: November 1st, 2010, 6:12 pm
by 100hp honda
piston didnt show up but im expecting it first thing tomorow :x . getting other parts rounded up in the meantime. meant to post this long time ago but never got to it. shows how ktm back cuts the dogs. camera aint the greatest so the detail might be hard to see but you get the point. some dudes probly already know what back cutting is but if you dont know then in a nutshell the dog is cut back toward center so when the opposing dog engages, it locks tighter the more torque thats applied. almost impossible to ever pop out of gear once engaged, unless you apply the clutch and release the torque.


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Posted: November 3rd, 2010, 8:26 pm
by 100hp honda
my friend i get ktm parts from hooked me up bigtime on this deal

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semi keystone rings

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had to look twice at the clearance posted on the box. thought it was a misprint at first. 89mm that wiseco made for the katooms said to run a full .001 more clearance.

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have to mod the pin boss slightly for honda bearing then i can run piston through the stroke and see what i got to do with the spacer. appears there will plenty of length on the studs. on second thought if i have to go up much more the studs will be damn close to needing longer ones.

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Posted: November 3rd, 2010, 9:39 pm
by caseyracing222
100hp honda wrote:piston didnt show up but im expecting it first thing tomorow :x . getting other parts rounded up in the meantime. meant to post this long time ago but never got to it. shows how ktm back cuts the dogs. camera aint the greatest so the detail might be hard to see but you get the point. some dudes probly already know what back cutting is but if you dont know then in a nutshell the dog is cut back toward center so when the opposing dog engages, it locks tighter the more torque thats applied. almost impossible to ever pop out of gear once engaged, unless you apply the clutch and release the torque.


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Yamaha is the same way....

Posted: November 7th, 2010, 7:29 pm
by 100hp honda
i wont bore you guys with the specifics of piston and trench mods needed but thought couple things were worth mentioning. had a suprise when i started weighing things.

89mm honda boat anchor without pin. with pin 497g

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92mm unmodded without pin

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92mm after bearing mod without pin. with pin 479g

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this piston/rod was frikin made for each other

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close but no cigar

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got light under the skirt. cylinder has to go up more like i was speculating.


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Posted: November 10th, 2010, 10:55 am
by aac500
New to the site would like to post some old cr 500 parts for sale, how do i go about doing that?

Posted: November 10th, 2010, 11:22 am
by lewisclan
aac500 wrote:New to the site would like to post some old cr 500 parts for sale, how do i go about doing that?
Go here and post away
http://bannedcr500riders.com/board/viewforum.php?f=4

Posted: November 10th, 2010, 11:25 am
by Roostius_Maximus
more than another gasket will do?

Posted: November 10th, 2010, 11:26 am
by AlisoBob
Noob's gotta give Jay the parts free as "admission dues".

That's how it works around here.

Posted: November 10th, 2010, 6:30 pm
by 100hp honda
Roostius_Maximus wrote:more than another gasket will do?
not sure. have to try .030 gaskets and see what happens. hole under the skirt is atleast .020+. probly do a new spacer if .030 gaskets dont work. should have a game plan in the next few days.

Posted: November 10th, 2010, 6:40 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
whats the stroke?
are you remotely close to where you want to be with the port timing?
piston proud of the bore yet?

Posted: November 10th, 2010, 6:44 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
did you get those cases trenched already?
how much gasket surface is left?

Posted: November 10th, 2010, 7:23 pm
by 100hp honda
working on the cases now. theres plenty of gasket surface left. ktm cases are real thick. only have to trench .025 deep and about .040 wide.

stroke is 82mm but cylinder has to go up more because skirt gap and port timings are too low for what i want. alot of welding on exhaust floor is needed if you want the piston proud. want to get exhaust back to about 188ish then do porting from there.

Posted: November 10th, 2010, 7:33 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
what degree are you opening the exh?

Posted: November 10th, 2010, 7:35 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
that trenching shouldnt be too bad. lastnight i did 2 cr500 cases in 12 minutes, they had kicked a rod, welded a window shut and basically did the same thing as trench, but just went far enough to clean them up. center off the main, dial in the boring head and press start :lol:

Posted: November 11th, 2010, 6:57 pm
by 100hp honda
tried with .030 gaskets. 184 exh 122 trans and .040 on the head. still seems about .015 low from before i swapped rods. small gap still under the skirt. think this wiseco might be few thousands shorter than the mahle

Posted: February 10th, 2011, 10:30 pm
by 100hp honda
finally had plating taken off and ports welded. got a few pointers from rsss396 and a couple other dudes :cool: . thnx for the help. this handpiece will work slick as snot for grinding the trans and sub exh holes


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