fork bleeders
- caseyracing222
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fork bleeders
Check out my new fork bleeders, the parts to make them cost $20 and they work better than the push ones you buy. they let built up air escape on every stroke and make a difference. basically there a cheaper version of a sub tank system.
-Jake
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You need a closed system for the air spring part of the suspension to work properly. Fork bleeders allow you to reset the air spring back to zero pressure when it gets hot. Changing oil height affects the size of the air chamber and its associated spring rate. Sub tanks have a valve that tricks the fork into thinking it is has a larger air volume / softer air spring until you hit a big bump and the valve closes immediately creating a small air chamber / harder air spring to resist bottoming. I think your approach will do neither. Sorry.
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Re: fork bleeders
You describe its flaw perfectly......caseyracing222 wrote:they let built up air escape on every stroke
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Re: fork bleeders
I dont find that to be a flaw. I didnt design this system, a rider much better than me did and Im sure if there was an issue with it he wouldnt be using it or recomending it to anyone...AlisoBob wrote:You describe its flaw perfectly......caseyracing222 wrote:they let built up air escape on every stroke
-Jake
I fully expect to see these at A2 on Dungey's bike, now that the secret is out.......
Its just what he needs to catch Bubba..... Too bad the Suzuki engineers dont know what what your buddy knows....
If you and your buddy like the results.... it probably means your way oversprung. Removing the "air spring" aspect of the forks softens it up, to your approval.
Softer fork springs, and resealing the fork caps is the proper soultion.
Its just what he needs to catch Bubba..... Too bad the Suzuki engineers dont know what what your buddy knows....
If you and your buddy like the results.... it probably means your way oversprung. Removing the "air spring" aspect of the forks softens it up, to your approval.
Softer fork springs, and resealing the fork caps is the proper soultion.
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haha very funny bob, your a real shit starter. I heard some positive feedback about the bleeders from a few people so I decided to try them. If they dont work I will simply take them off and post my feedback. Theres really no need to start a bunch a BS over this, it seems everytime someone trys something new on this site or does something a different way not to your liking you bash them for it or make a stupid reference to your AF and go on and on about how your way is the proper way, your AF is nice but its not the nicest Ive seen and your way isnt all ways the best.
-Jake
I'm not saying they dont "work" for you.... I'm trying to tell you WHY they appear to work. You dont seem to care.caseyracing222 wrote: I heard some positive feedback about the bleeders from a few people so I decided to try them. If they dont work I will simply take them off and post my feedback. ...your AF is nice but its not the nicest Ive seen and your way isnt all ways the best.
If you added those restrictors I mentioned, It would function somewhat like a El-Cheapo sub tank system.( Bleeding the forks down to ambient pressure for a plush ride , but also trapping the air pressure generated by rapid fork compression for bottoming protection) In its current condition, it behaves like a drunk Britincai left the bleeder screws on the workbench, as he rolled his next doobie.
Oh, and my bike? It sucks compared to that Aussie stuff. I built it for me, not to impress anyone.
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What part of " your springs are too stiff" dont you understand?caseyracing222 wrote:Ride Report:
No bottoming, nor is it close to bottoming, the only advantage these have is they soften up the initial stroke
If you removed the "air spring" compoenent of your front suspension.... and it still dosent bottom out..... whats that telling you?
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im with bob....if your suspension is too stiff for your liking, and you have springs and revalving to match your weight, then you are simply not riding very hard, and are looking for a plush ride.AlisoBob wrote:Appearantly.......... you dont.caseyracing222 wrote:ok I have my suspension revalved and the spring are set to my weight.
or the guy that did your suspension work sucks ass.
i took my bleeder screws out for about 5 minutes to check out the difference, and it would be great for slow woods riding. nice and soft. but its absolute SHIT on a track or anywhere you are going fast.
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